The thing is, it is not just another joke. But- and heres the but- not forgiving them is no excuse for repeated bullying, harassment, and worse. No it doesnt excuse what theyve said, but its likely that they have changed, which is something everybody does and it should be embraced. If you have anything else you wanna add/say, my ask box is open, but I probably wont reply until tomorrow because I really need to go to bed. pic.twitter.com/d4GXcv4AIt, As more fans attempted to clear the hashtag and ask for others to be kind and consider the mental health of idols like Hwasa, some couldn't help but laugh at the questions being asked. Even if it was a joke or a passing, it wasnt very funny. Im honestly not trying to tell people that everybody on that list is a problematic asshole, as Ive said before, Heechul is one of my ultimate biases and I dont think hes a problematic asshole. Im not sure anyone will read this post, Im not sure if any of the people upset by my actions will read it (because I doubt they are following this blog) but I felt like I owed everybody an apology. }); Offensive Super Junior Masterpost. 21 Feb 2023, 07:29 PM. Another misconception I found was about Hwasa and how shes the devil and sooo racist. Posts: 337. We're celebrities too but we're human first.". Everyone, dont think of dirty thoughts!, negative comment about Taos skin being dark, cant be too chubby/fat and must have a nice body, He has darker skin than me, doesnt he?, in general, youre skin looks better if you have a lighter skin tone. . Ill probably check over the masterpost tomorrow and try to add more info and context and stuff. eventAction: 'click_image_ads' She made her solo debut with the single "Spit It Out" on April 23, 2020.She released her first extended play : Face with its . pg.acq.push(function() { I forgot how toxic Kpop fans can be Like you all know, Mamamoo has a pretty small fan base (internationally) compared to some other idol groups. Our team is real men., Actually, we are all men, real men ah! document.querySelector("#adunit").addEventListener('click',function(){ They're open-minded and extremely kind people. Group. 18 Jan 2023, 08:31 PM . Kim Yong-sun (Korean: , born February 21, 1991), better known by the stage name Solar (Korean: ), is a South Korean singer, songwriter and actress signed under RBW.She is the leader and main vocalist of girl group Mamamoo and its sub-unit Mamamoo+. For me, I think controversies and hate are just the unfortunate and difficult side that comes with being an idol. Ive said it before and Ill say it again, that post wasnt made with the intent of hurting Super Junior or their fans, nor was it made for the purpose of bashing Super Junior. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy K-pop stans w/o any receipts. Meanwhile for girl groups it's just full of hate comments even if they did not do as many or as severe problematic things as boy groups. We have, arguably, a smaller fan base in a way - at least internationally - so its a little easier to see those hate thorns in-between the roses. Everyone is welcome, fans and non-fans. All this being said, Mamamoo is truly know, not as huge award/reality show winners, but as an idol group of the people. If other fandoms are able to trend Mamamoo/Hwasa hate comments, it will distract from the messes that other fandoms are currently dealing with. Call me out for what? They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. The Radish Farm (Mamamoo Thread) This is going to be safe space for everyone who wants to talk about Mamamoo. 1) I made this post because Ive seen people actively asking about what things suju have done and whether we have a masterpost, this wasnt supposed to be a resource for people to use to justify their hate for suju, however if a person does hate suju because of things members have said/done that is up to them. I still like Ryeowook, I wont defend what he did, but Im still his fan. The last thing repeatedly referenced against Hwasa is the fact that she wore a durag on Queendom during Mamamoos Good Luck performance. A subreddit for the four member kpop group, MAMAMOO! One user asked, "Which culture did u enjoy appropriating the most," while another quipped, "Can we have a spoiler? Why was that her fault? window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('impressionViewable', function(event) { In this video, they wore blackface. Ill probably look for another video of the same segment at some point but I dont have time right now. RBW then said they would work to educate themselves more on cultural sensitivity and the struggles that the black community and various other POC communities have undergone and continue to go through. ", which culture did u enjoy appropriaing the most #AskHwasapic.twitter.com/x6WYr2VeJa, Can we have a spoiler? (Photo : Mr. Kim) Apink Chorong was a school bully, New recordings and evidence Revealed [+1,956, -53] As expected, the entertainment industry is filled with kids with such dirty personalities~~~~~. okay so somebody sent me a link to the video (thank you btw!) It's even harder these days.. anything can be taken out of context for example, they're banning "Baby It's Cold Outside" on the radio because some people feel the lyrics suggest date rape what a load of BS. If we reflect on our own selves, Im sure a lot of us have done some similar things that could be classified as questionable if we were always in the spotlight as idols too. I dont really want this published but Im Korean and I just watched the SISTAR video and the translations are pretty accurate, Hyorin was trying to say how bora has all black fashion and her hair and black complexion adds on to it, and I felt that too (soyu was trying to suggest that hyorin had darker skin than bora so hyorin shouldnt talk about anyone elses skin color) so hyorin was like yeah but at least I dont wear black clothes like bora! but its hard not to be. The Official MAMAMOO 18+ Thread - The Bar (18+) - OneHallyu Hello everyone, in honor of MAMAMOOs super awesome comeback for their sassy title track, Um Ah Oh Yeh, from their Pinky Funky mini album, I have decided to create a 18+ thread for the sexy ladies of MAMAMOO. As for the Kris thing, Im aware its Heechuls opinion, but considering Kris left for very valid reasons (and was practically being abused by SM, as it seems many of the Chinese members were) I would say that it could be consideredproblematic to call Kris disrespectful for leaving, especially after all the shit he got from fans and the members themselves. I didnt really spend a huge amount of time on that Super Junior post and I didnt properly think about the way I was phrasing things, or the information I was including. Fans welcome to spam photos, videos, gifs, to talk about Mamamoo, Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein, Hwasa updates, music, content or anything. Zhoumi laughed about the earthquake of 6.8 magniture that hit Taiwan saying When the earthquake struck just then, it was just like playing. Moreover, Zhou Mi even used last years Si Chuan earthquake as comparison, saying: Last year, when we were promoting in China, we also met an earthquake, and it was pretty happy. And Han Geng who was beside him immediately rushed forward to clarify: He (Zhou Mi) doesnt mean happy. However, it was too late, as everything was already recorded by the media. One tweet asked, "What we feeling today -er or -a? ), but I think if you look at all other successful idol groups too, there is always something similar with controversies and hate there as well. I was around during Queendom for the durag situation but I don't see that a large issue as one of loves Rihanna wearing them and was selling them and promoting them to all races. ", Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/3AqtVlig1n, what we feeling today -er or -a? Mamamoo member Hwasa is one of the most compelling female idols. hitType: 'event', Mamamoo themselves wrote: We were extremely ignorant of blackface and did not understand the implications of our actions. People can and do change, me from two years ago was a huge mess of anti-social justiceness (somehow) and I used to despise blogs like the very one Im running right now. Siwon isnt the only member this has happened to, and I also understand that a lot of the time people take things out of context in order to justify hating on a specific member and its really frustrating. We always seem to be so hard to celebrities, especially idols, when they fuck up yet we're never there to congratulate them once we see them grow and change. Anyway, I hope this didnt come across as rude or anything, but I really need to go to sleep now. 21 Jan 2023, 03:11 AM . The most ridiculous thing I have heard it that Hwasa try to be black like how by being Confident and unapologetic about her skin tone, clothing and looks cause she radiates hotness. Im not trying to run away from anything, if you have issues with any of the things I say or do (because I am privileged in certain aspects) please dont feel afraid to bring them up! The other day it was revealed that two major idols were dating, and before I had even seen the news article, I was in a Mamamoo fan group-chat, and someone sent out the link of the dating news with their comment under being, be on high alert for hwasas tags. : ) : ) Wow! kpop groups; soloists; socials and info; Back; kpop groups. I dont make these lists with the intent of ruining the idols image or spreading misinformation (which by the way, if I do again, please call me out on it because otherwise I have no other way of knowing). I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on their controversies and I'll admit it hurt to read so many people hate on them since I was with them when they debut and immediately fell in love. Their interactions with their fans and staff members are so sweet and genuine, and they do their best to be inclusive of everyone (like Wheein taking her time to speak to a deaf fan and doing some sign language, Hwasa going on the floor to sign a fan's cast---the list goes on). eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), #AskHwasa. But i was told online that even after apologised that they did it again but I couldn't find anything that showed that the only thing I found was Solar doing a beggar impersonation SNL in 2016 but that's not blackface or colourism as I have seen people try to argue, as homeless do get dark or tanner as they are unable to clean themselves properly and are outside all the time. document.querySelector("#ads").addEventListener('click',function(){ It's incredibly frustrating dealing with these kinds of people. If a celebrity said something homophobic 5 years ago but is now a huge activist in the lgbtq+ community, its likely that they were just ignorant and have learned since. If you haven't, let me enlighten you. I dont know if youre Korean or not (your blog doesnt say) but if you arent, I consider everything youve said invalid information. They are not exactly multicultural societies vs. north america. Again I apologise for any of the harm I have caused with this blog, it was definitely unintentional, but thats no excuse. Read more about it here. Yes I should have included more context. #1. This was such a good response. Mamamoo - Solar. As Ive said before, I dont know everything, and I try to provide sources for what I post, but Im a bit cynical and I can sometimes put too much trust into what other people say, so please, please, please call me out if you notice me spreading misinformation (it will always be appreciated) and I will update the masterpost. ), http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/117874134598/hi-i-just-wanted-to-comment-on-your-tag-about, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/117835308868/ayabewakasa-one-unsubstantiated-article-that, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/118060768918/about-the-issue-of-siwon-saying-no-to-the-fanboy, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/119551166438/baekbitchyeol-catchmeinthedrift. It is common in America to wear red puffy wigs as the stereotype of a clown, however it is not as common in South Korea, which is why Hwasa wore braids as the hair to her outfit. And yes I did make an exo masterpost, heres a link. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy kpop stans w/o any recipts https://t.co/rBMH79ZvlD, HELP i dont like hwasa but some of yall going a little to far, some of yall preach mental health but pick and choose who that applies too ngl i let out a couples laughs tho#AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/GbxXzX6Fna. 9 Months of Service. Lose some weight, why cant you take care of yourself. Of course I was disappointed in some of the things they've done and said, but we all make mistakes and they've acknowledged them and apologized. The word Hwasa has become a synonym for trash in the eyes of many K-pop fans, which in turn leads to them believing it is acceptable to beat her down as a defection of their own kpop favs. And then later on she includes a list of problematic things that her favourite (boy) group has done and it's literally 3x as long. I promise you it wasnt a group thing. Yes, I should have checked the links. Honestly there is nothing wrong with what they said. eventAction: 'render' I did do that on my exo masterpost, but I also spent a lot more time and thought on that post as well. i just dont love all the stuff they say/do. We all make mistakes and Mamamoo is no exception. So many public figures coming out and vouching for Mamamoos talent and success only continues to prove their worth and value to the world. reporters on a platform technologically tailored to meet the needs of the modern reader. (especially since hes never repeated anything like that.). They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. Moomoos are also quite reserved and a bit more mature so whenever Mamamoo is criticized, you have a small group of people rationally trying to defend them. gads_event = event; hitType: 'event', i know you deemed your siwon thing heavily unreliable but even the fanvideo is wrong. In the age of the Internet, in the age where absolutely anything can be done online, your actions online matter. "Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo," read one tweet. They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. Yes, we're all people, but idols are scrutinized for their every word and action, even much more so than non-celebrities). For hours the terms hwasa n-word, hwasa racist, hwasa ugly, hwasa dead, were the most common twitter terms in Hwasas searches, while Moos rushed around trying to tweet positive things and trend protective hashtags in response. where henry addressed the gay thing (the trans thing wasnt included) and he doesnt seem to have said anything about it worrying him! 1,891 Rep. 1 Year of Service. Refresh the page,. i love exo. The MAMAMOO Introduction Guide of 2022 (Part 1: Members) MOO YT 40K views 7 months ago Is Duolingo Really a Good Way to Study Japanese? Only four hours after the incident occurred, both Mamamoo and their company RBW wrote out an apology in both Korean and English and posted it online. I'm not dismissing them or overlooking them, but I know that there was no ill intent in what they did and that they're doing their best. I just always feel the need to resolve something when I get into it and I could see where you were coming from (plus you made some valid criticisms) so I thought Id explain myself. Another thing referenced against Hwasa is the occasion she dressed up as a clown. I only made the post because Ive personally received asks about whether or not there is a Super Junior master post and whether specific members have done anything, and thought itd be easy to compile a list, seeing as thats sorta what this blog is for. I found out that they did blackface which is disgusting and heartbreaking cause I really liked them so I stewed on it for a few days and looked again and found that they had apologised that same day 2x and that they also apologised in person the next day concert. Her wig: Now I can understand how it can be seen as cultural appropriation. Also I see hate being normalised and even being defended its not hard if u don't want to forgive them then just ignore or block all mentions of them. I know Ive answered questions on things like racism, colorism, cultural appropriation, etc. when Lay said, When asked about his ideal type, said that she, He and Chen chose Kai and Tao as the members they wouldnt want to date if they were girls, when Chen was explaining why, Xiumin interrupted him and saidThey both have a similarity, theyre both tanned (, Posted a photograph of him in a face mask on Weibo and captioned it, Apparently there were some old online comments from Baekhyuns cyworld account where he called girls at his High School sluts but I cant find any screenshots, Chanyeol and Baekhyun apparently admitted to teasing the Chinese members at first for their pronunciation/korean and acted somewhat cold towards them, though I cannot find a source for this, Many people have said Chanyeol said his ideal type would have white/pale skin but I cant find a source on that so Im not sure, Some people have told me that Kris is sexist/misogynistic but I cant find anything about this online, I also vaguely remember seeing a picture of exo which one of the members wrote comments on and there was something about Kais skin being dark but I cant remember who it was (possibly Kai himself?) I've researched it online and all I see are hate comments, especially towards Solar and Wheein. I hear people say that she added it in to a song that didn't have it on purpose but that version is on Melon. It was laughable because a writer had a compilation of problematic things that idol groups did and you can very clearly see the double-standards people have for boy groups and girl groups (even the writer herself). Advanced Faker. Daily persecution? She gets loads of comments drenched in colourism and misogyny about her genitals and looks its truly vomit worth. A large section of the hate she receives is linked to the idol rarely conforming to what is typically expected of women in K-pop, particularly ones in girl groups. Contents 1 History 1.1 Pre-debut 1.2 2014: Debut with Hello, and Piano Man 1.3 2015: Pink Funky 1.4 2016: Melting, MOOSICAL and Memory 1.5 2017: MOOSICAL Curtain Call and Purple eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Heres the thing- you can not forgive them. Discover short videos related to mamamoo being problematic on TikTok. The K-POP idol's vocal talent is considered one of the best in the industry and yet, she continues to receive a great amount of . document.querySelector("#google_image_div").addEventListener('click',function(){ 2) Its a good thing that people talk about suju being problematic? I can definitely understand where youre coming from and why you sounded defensive. During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. While MBC later clarified that the outfit was meant to be a glamorized version of the sauna outfits worn by South Koreans, particularly a style that Hwasa herself has worn before, many thought the outfit was far more similar to an African one than a Korean sauna look. Im getting upset the more I think about it lol but really its just a lot of misconceptions; sometimes culturally and linguistically, that Americans like to hold a grudge against. or for the life of me find it again so this is unsourced for the time being. Thanks for posting this. It is continued bashing and harassment of four girls, who for all accounts dont deserve it. Yes theres a chance it was scripted (something I didnt include originally but will add) but since we arent sure, I included it anyway. Having said that it was still wrong but I don't acquite it to a minstrel show or it have been in a mock manner and I am glad that they apologised and have learnt from that. eventAction: 'click_ads' Im ironically bad at dealing with conflict, which might make some people question why I started this blog (it was actually an accident, long story), but Ive tried not to let it affect my running of this blog. On top of that, they bash the fans saying we overlook everything and that Mamamoo should have been cancelled by now. Its quite a big responsibility looking after this blog and Im not sure my wellbeing can take that on top of my workload and personal problems. And it manifested almost solely around Hwasa who since the very beginning has received the bulk of the hate. ; _____; aaaa. It is absurd. Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? From my own judgement, the members seem like good, genuine people. }); But seeing these articles faze me. 1. But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. We will be taking time to understand more about our international fans to ensure this never happens again. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Mamamoo ( Korean : , stylized in all caps) [2] is a South Korean girl group formed by RBW (formerly WA Entertainment) in 2014, composed of four members: Solar, Moon Byul, Whee In and Hwa Sa. 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