Skin care is a pretty big deal, and we love subs like /r/SkinCareAddiction, however we felt there needed to be a sub that deals specifically with skin that's over 30. He said that people think they need to use moisturiser like girls who put a lot of things on their faces, because they're told to, but actually just make their skin worse. A moisturizer formulated with skin-soothing ingredients like oatmeal, chamomile, aloe vera, azulene, etc., can substantially reduce these symptoms. wish i had your dermatologist, My derm told me to never mousturize unless my skin was painfully dry and tight. "When you use moisturizer every. Yes, I agree with you. Every time. "My feeling is there is abuse of moisturizer," he says. Because it is so easy to formulate and sell, the brainwashing started in the late '50s and '60s from all the cosmetic companies. I just wanna know what would be better and when would I need to stop using it. I don't use a cleanser, I just lather "simple" soap (because he told me to avoid main brand products and just go for a simple soap with not many ingredients in), so what is more simple than "simple" soap - I also barely wash my face, I literally do the acne.org cleansing method with it and I do it even less with that and even less contact than that. then basically when its time to reapply and you dont the Sun can get you far worse than if you hadnt applied spf the first time that day. I . every time i would get a cleaning i would walk out bleeding and have scarring. Good Luck. Please read the sidebar rules before posting or commenting. Skotnicki, who recently authored the book Beyond Soap, believes that people have a tendency to over-wash, which inherently dries out skin. A doctor on YouTube is giving generic advice that may work for many people, but won't apply to everyone. IPL Laser Side Effects - When do They Go Away? A bit of moisturizer isnt a bad thing, but its the thought process of the beauty industry that says to moisturize all the time, she says. * Garnier Ambre Solaire Light and Silky sunscreen in SPF 30 as a day cream. It really depends on the context of the advice. After IPL how long does hyperpigmentation last? Dr. Gary Goldenberg, a dermatologist and founder of Goldenberg Dermatology in New York, told Insider what products she needs to swap out to address her skin-care concerns. http://prasadcosmeticsurgery.com/prasad-medi-spa/laser-light-treatments/intense-pulsed-light/. Has anyone else here experienced the same or got told the same thing by their Derm? I can only imagine how dry you were on accutane. "Moisturizer doesn't just add water back into your skin, it also traps in the water. I went without moisturizer for practically months until I started to notice my scars weren't healing like normal because of the drying acne treatments I was using. The recovery from an IPL treatment depends on the patient and on the aggressiveness of the treatment. My acne fighting journey has been going on for 2 years now and I have tried a lot of different things and products. "Because it is so easy to formulate and sell, the brainwashing started in. Some experts believe that it's not necessary to moisturize skin as the body is already equipped to do it on its own. My lips are bleeding as I type this coz theyre sooooo sore from being dry and I live in Mumbai so its not even cold. The Ordinary. Emily Blunt's Best Braless Red Carpet Looks Over the Years: Photos. Rosewater Moisturizer Rose Oil Rosewater Rosewater & Glycerin ; Benefits : Hydrating toner, smooths & refines skin, helps minimize the look of pores, fine lines & wrinkles, wipes away impurities : . Almost zero percent of my patients actually requires a moisturizer, he explains. He said any worthwhile Vit C/antioxidant serum will have some sort of hydrating ingredient in it, and it's more than enough. Otherwise it's seemingly impossible for me to spread it all across my face. Some days I use rose oil in its place but on others (generally warmer days) I can get away with only a wash and my HA serum followed by SPF and it totally leaves my face soft and dewy. But the reality is that its not even that effective. Accutane thins and damages your skin. Especially when, to Dr. Days point, I live in New York, one of the most stressful, polluted cities in the world. This sounds like terrible advice. However she may or may not change it in my follow up which is next week. another interesting thing which i can say is true from experience is that shampoo messes up your hair/scalp. My two cents: Everyone is different. I don't like the lotion. Tretinoin is Schedule H drug in India and must be used with doctor's prescription only. Yes, my skin is super oily and clogged, moisturizer and sun screen would block my pores even more, but he told me I can go back and use them after Accutane got rid of my acne. Avoiding a moisturizer after Intense Pulsed Light treatments may be based on the concern that superficial areas which get deeply pigmented and peel off can become healed over if moisturizer is used after IPL. Like those . Stock up on that too. There are a few dermatologists that are fairly anti-moisturiser. Hope this is helpful. "It's not bloody or guts-y, but it's still an organ, and organs need water." My skin is acne prone and very sensitive to many products, but I have never had a reaction to any product she uses. Skincare routines vary for everyone, but most regimens involve a moisturizer. Thanks in advance. SkinCeuticals Triple Lipid Restore 2:4:2 $128.00. Derms are skincare experts with many years of medical school on their side. Whole you're at it, can you guys recommend me some moisturizer and Sunscreen specifically for isotret low dosage? I live in the UK, where it's barely sunny, and even when it is, it's not strong enough to burn me unless I sat in it for hours facing the sun and even then, it wouldn't do much. Dr Rachael Eckel and Professor Peter Elias come to mind. His skepticism of moisturizers is almost at conspiracy level. Whatever keeps your skin healthy and happy, that's what you should do. Is the condition linked to mental health? Bumps. A dermatologist told me to use a 2% ketoconazole shampoo in a daily manner for my dandruff (my skin is oily, not dry). If your skin is dry when you get out of shower and it's causing irritation, how is putting moisturizer on it a bad thing? For more information, please see our Is what my dermatologist told me appropriate or not? It promises to not only smoothe, but also protect the skin's surface, encouraging it to improve dryness and pores. Uh no. Tretinoin is Schedule H drug in India and must be used with doctor's prescription only. She concedes that people with skin issues, like eczema and psoriasis, need extra hydration because their skin doesnt function properly, but for the rest, its practically unnecessary. My dermatologist said when I experienced dryness or dehydration she recommended a moisturizer, wether I use prescriped products or not. The problem is, especially now in winter, my face, after a shower or just simply washing my face gets very tight and dry. I have tried Differin, Tretinoin, nothing has worked so far. Even now I don't moisturise with my epiduo, just around my mouth (where I don't seem to get any acne anyway). Yesterday she told me to use EpiDuo Forte and she wants me to use it every day AFTER after slowly getting my skin accustomed to it. Only use the gel in the evening as part of your night time regimen. Patricia Ceballos, a dermatologist in New York City It should contain a NMF (natural moisturizing factor), which is a real thing. Thank you for taking my comment the way I wanted you to. Dr Obagi firmly believes that moisturizers, in general, reduce your skin's natural ability to exfoliate. Thats not about moisturizing, Skotnicki says. The tree gets its nutrients from the ground; no matter how much you spray the tree, it will become dry, he says. From what I recall you are incredibly photosensitive while on Accutane and sunscreen is essential. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Have you been to a dermatologist who has told you otherwise? $15. Is moisturizing really as critical as I've been told all my life? The trouble is, he told me to wash my face every morning and night with lukewarm water and a simple soap and NEVERmoisturise. So I'm confused as to what's up with the differing advice. The letter F. . !dermatologistsbefore the 5th one figured out what was wrong with me. It may be a good idea (if you're questioning your Derm's advice) to experiment and see what your skin likes better. In fact, I cant decide whether cleanser or moisturizer is the more fundamental product, but if I were to whittle my multi-step routine down to the essentials, those would be the two left. My problem is, I've been using this for months and I see a little improvement, but I'm still breaking out and I'm still unhappy with my face, but I'll persist because I've tried everything else. No matter how much you spray the tree, it will become dry.. It wakes up the skin and gets the cells to start working in harmony., While Dr. Obagi has long been marked as a forward-thinker in the dermatology world, I figured I might as well get a second opinion, considering how, you know, Ive spent my entire career going to events for moisturizers touted by derms, scientists, and facialists. Share your questions, frustrations and triumphs! Thanks for your feedback. If not, you are no worse for trying. Not gonna lie, I am a bit terrified since my skin always feels dry after the HA and the moisturizer has made it feel soft. In case you didn't know, skincare is a HUGE deal in Asian cultures, and I am not mad about it. Use the salicylic acid cleanser in the morning and wash your face with a gentle face wash in the evening before you apply retinol. Thanks again for taking time for this elaborate comment!! Breaking the cycle of moisturizer isnt without its withdrawal period, however. The trouble is, he told me to wash my face every morning and night with lukewarm water and a simple soap and NEVERmoisturise. Shop. $13. Upon returning to the bathroom, I immediately looked into the mirror. . If you apply a lot of moisture, skin will become sensitive, dry, dull, and interfere with natural hydration.. Content titles and body; Content titles only thats what i have been using and it works well. I didn't want to leave my room. Did he tell you that? The sunscreen she suggested is good but smells awful. Cookie Notice When you're using a harsh chemical (whether a topical or oral drug) to deliberately dry out your skin as part of the treatment, it's important to keep your skin as in balance as possible while the treatment does its work. "Your skin is the biggest organ in your body," she says. Augustinus Bader The Light Cream. Is the condition linked to mental health? I don't think a light face moisturizer is necessarily a bad thing but from personal experience I have two pieces of advice. Dermatologist Zein Obagi, Founder and Medical Director of ZO Skin Health, told me the same thing. It prescribed me with "pea size" amount, but I find it almost impossible to put that all over my face. According to Waldorf, surfactants don't distinguish between the excess oil or dirt in your skin and the necessary skin fats that you need. And your natural hydration, he says, is what really keeps skin healthy and young. They sold everyone that idea that you will dry and age. It's only in the day, when I'm waking up for work or something, where I feel the need to moisturise, but obviously, I was told not to. don't do very much for beauty.. I mentioned in a few comments that I have tried switching up a lot of things these past few years without success except for moisturiser so maybe this could be indeed the right way to go. I do remember the one I went to prescribed Retin-A but gave me no advice on using it. Helps Battle Oil and Acne Dr Zein Obagi, who created ZO Skin Health, has the same theory about not using traditional moisturizers. Itchy and scratchy: Two new treatments may offer hope for eczema sufferers, dermatologist says moisturizer isn't necessary, dermatologist says no one needs moisturizer, Dr. Obagi says you don't need moisturizer. The tree gets its nutrients from the ground,he offers by way of analogy. I had a strange reaction to cetaphil. Lactating/ breastfeeding women will have to consult their doctors. I did as requested. Ive recently posted a similar question in the skincare sub more focused on the skin prep before makeup, so i wanted to come here and ask for advice on tips for some coverage on dehydrated skin without making me look even worse/accentuating fine lines. Get a completely mineral one, no chemicals, so it won't clog your pores or irritate your insanely delicate skin. Is Moisturiser Bad for Your Skin? A dermatologist told me to use a gentler cleanser and a moisturizer high in SPF. I understand youre hesitant to follow her advice but her suggestion isnt coming from nowhere. He said dryness is a symptom of my medication gel and that it is a good sign, because it is drying up my pores and means my skin is not oily. Did he tell you that? Time is definitely on your side with an esthetician. It can be difficult to use a pea sized amount but I think the most important thing is to try to use the smallest amount you can get away with and usually the amount you need is smaller than you think. :). He told me to start using 4% Hydroquinone which we did discuss at my first appointment. When you use moisturizer every day, you run the risk of making your skin older, not younger, he said to Refinery29. I also can't say my skin is great, because I still get pimples, at the moment quite a few too. In todays world where we cant control all the stressors and exposure and pollution, using hydrators and moisturizers makes sense, she continues. The key is just to not get into a daily habit and only use it when needed. Because this is exactly what happened with my doctor too. I'm just going to come out and say it: For all the hype, I've never really loved Augustinus Bader's creams. Just my 2 cents, but I honestly think every skin - even every acne/acne prone skin - works a little differently in that regard. You definitely don't have to use both salicylic acid and retinol on the same day. Maybe I'll just cut it down to a few times a week when I'm feeling dry. Lips are the ones that become the most dry and even simple things like eating or yawning will hurt if you're not slathering lip mask on the lips and esssspecially the corners. Letting your skin get overly dry is not only uncomfortable (and one of the leading reasons why people give up on an acne treatment that is otherwise helping) but can cause irritation breakouts, which can make things worse. Look it up. Did he give any reason behind it? My dermatologist told me it might take up to an hour for the full effects to "kick in". You should absolutely use a moisturizer and sunscreen after IPL treatments. She said it is a common misconception that everyone always needs a moisturizer, it's needed when your skin becomes or feels dry or dehydrated. Tretinoin is a Category C drug and IS CONSIDERED UNSAFE DURING PREGNANCY. I have been using this product for two months now and see a definite difference in the red areas. First, I would try to look at your current routine and make any changes you can to keep your skin from getting to dry to begin with. Any of my search term words; All of my search term words; Find results in. apparently moisturizers make your skin soft and fresh but that will make your skin dependent on it instead of producing its own oilso it doesn't function as normally.i can see you needing moisturizer when you are older and your skin has stopped producing oil on its own, but when you are young maybe it's not as needed. $31 at . My dermatologist told me to use this on 5 areas on my face to get rid of sun damaged areas. I read that you should use moisturizer after IPL, but when I had it done, my doctor told me NOT to use any to help speed up the "clearing" of the coffee grounds. I know a pea-size is the recommended starting dose for Dan's BP, and for me it did seem fruitless using so little. I was also breaking out a LOT on my upper back. Thank you so much for this. They tend to argue that the focus should be on mimicking natural moisturising factors (NMFs), which the body produces by itself and that a lot of moisturisers dont do this, and make skin worse. It offers 30 spf, does not clog pores and drys skin out. Moisturizers and Sunscreen useis key after IPL treatments. Especially if you are using irritating acne products. Both work well and as far as it doesnt break me out etc my doctor said its okay to use. It litterally stops your sebum glands from producing oil. His skepticism of moisturizers is almost at conspiracy level. Sure enough they all flaked off within 7 days, AND I had a lot. Why not just try a noncomedogenic moisturizer and see if it helps. When you put on something like an eye cream, youll get an immediate response, but after 15 minutes, it goes away.. And I have been using moisturizer pretty much all my life, so I don't even know what my skin is at its "baseline". At 6 weeks according to numerous websites that the tightening effect is to . A Hong Kong woman killed her parents, herself because of eczema. "My late mother . Acne.org's was fantastic but I didn't like the tawny texture it gave my face, if only there was a white version of it haha. If dermatologist did not advise you on an alternative I would change dermatologist. But, in the name of journalism, I just might give it a shot (and if it's anything like fellow beauty writer Daniela Morosini's experience, maybe it won't be so traumatic, after all). If you do an internet search basically every dermatologist (real ones with "scientific study he has spent years on")unanimously agrees that you have to apply sunscreen when using Retin-Ano matter what.I live in fog and clouds and put on sunscreen even if I don't leave my house. Also, I have tried a lot of different stuff. What's your problem? I was just in shock because I cant imagine not being on SPF with Accutane. This intense cream works to bring damaged cells to the surface and remove them while preventing the further development of abnormal cells. The treatment dried me out (he didn't mention anything about moisturizing, he was not for or against, this topic just never came up) and a few months later I quit because the treatment became unbearable and made my skin look terrible. 3/7/2020. For those of you that have been advised not to use sun screen. I've been taking his advice and so far it's been great, it's just the dryness and I'm starting to get fed up to be honest, so I might have to put a moisturiser on. Made with an optimal ratio of ceramides, natural cholesterol, and fatty acids, this cream counteracts the aging process and nourishes skin on contact. Thats quite strange. Which is one reason I'd never use a facial . By contrast, face-to-face time with a dermatologist is usually anywhere from 10-20 minutes. Im through with my moisturiser so Ive switched to neutrogena hydro boost sleeping mask / LOral revitalift HA filler night cream. Have you studied dermatology or is all this just information you found on the internet and lifestyle things you've picked up on? and our Shop This. I've been looking.. but trying to find an ACTUAL non-comedogenic moisturiser in this world, is near impossible. i was pretty much surprised being a sunscreen fan for a long time. I'm generally just looking for anything to put me at ease to be honest and your experiences. Surfactants can be helpful because they act as a foaming agent in shampoos and cleansers to remove dirt and unwanted oils. "Your skin absolutely needs moisturizer," says Mona Gohara, a dermatologist at Yale University, who also told me that no, your skin can't get "addicted" to moisturizer (though my bank statement begs to differ). There were also facials and other at the office treatments during this period. I don't have a degree in dermatology. He also said that Benzyl Peroxide, because of its drying nature and because it wasn't doing anything for me, wasn't my best option, and he put me on this treclin gel, which doesn't dry me out very much and I only have to apply before bed. . Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I would also especially avoid over washing the most sensitive areas of your face which are usually around your eyes, nose and mouth. The oil is derived from pressed almonds, GMP quality assured and hexane-fre; it can be used on your face, skin, scalp and more. Others might need more mosturiser, because their oily skin is their body's attempt to counteract aggressive tensides that strip away natural oils and the ensuing dryness might actually contribute to greater cornification. Dr Rachael Eckel and Professor Peter Elias come to mind. Some patients react to almost any stimulus with a blush or red response. She wrote me prescriptions for two topicals: a retinoid and a compounded cream for my melasma (a condition that causes dark patches on my face). The best wrinkle cream is L'Oral Age Perfect Cell Renewal Rosy Tone Moisturizer, which Jane Fonda and Helen Mirren love. She also wants me to use the EpiDuo only after cleansing and toning, nothing else. HELPFUL TIPS: USE AT NIGHTTIME. Sunstick is thankyou farmer!!! Sometimes dryer than other times. The thing is I've read several times that one shouldn't use it daily. But your dermatologist did not tell you never to use sunscreenthey advised you not to use it for a fixed period (until your medication kicks in) and not to go into the sun in the meantime. It's a great barrier cream that would protect the skin after applying and helps soothe angry, inflamed skin." Pavitt Finish with a lightweight SPF: PCA Skin Sheer Tint Broad Spectrum SPF 45 $50 Shop Now Its a radical and controversial stance, but other experts tend to agree. Obviously I don't know your individual skin and I also don't know how closely your derm looked at yours (so the rec might be absolutely right for you) or if they were stating it more as a general thing for every acne patient (which I don't agree with). Also, it's winter and windchills where I live. I do shampoo my hair most days and I am a guy, so I'll look into this, because I get acne on my upper back, which could be a cause of all the harsh chemicals and product falling down my back every day. "The sunscreen in your moisturizer or foundation is not sufficient on bright sunny days, because you do not use enough of it to give you sufficient UV protection," explained Dr. Shainhouse. ??? Or if not because my last dermatologist visit he told me to use the ointment. It seemed to irritate me and make me face red. Dr. Heidi Waldorf, a cosmetic dermatologist, reviewed my shower routine and told me everything I'm doing wrong from the type of products I use to the order of my routine. Some people might have no problem with moisturiser, but anything irritating might make their acne worse, even though acids help in theory (with exfoliating and therefore letting sebum moisturising your skin instead of getting trapped in comedones), but for some they apparently disrupt the skin barrier, which might weaken it for bacteria to enter. For example, if an IPL is combined with a resurfacing laser treatment a thicker petroleum is often recommended for a couple of days before converting over to moisturizer. Hot water whisks away the fatty substances in the skin that help it retain water. All good suggestions for a prophylactic approach to avoiding dry skin! Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Quispe Lpez. 2. I can see exactly what you're saying and a lot of posts on the internet agree with you, but I can't help but think that the person who is telling me the opposite has literally had a top class education in this field, studied everything and anything about skin and knows what he's talking about. Try raspberry oil and before you think no not an oil it is fantastic for oily skin. I didnt use a moisturiser while i was using an acne facewash for 5 months, and i ended up with some sort of eczema & weird dry patches. Now I cant ever go out again. Typically they happen when dead skin cells decide to hang together and get trapped under your skin's surface. Dr. Zein Obagi, a Beverly Hills-based dermatologist and founder of ZO Skin Health, says that using moisturizer could actually be detrimental to skin. I think I am going to try her way now and hope for the best. Our eyelids need moisturizer & sunscreen (when outside for 15+ mins). i don't know if i have done any permanent damage but i am glad i at least don't have an oil slick face all the time. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I lean towards Korean brands like Beauty of Joseon. All rights reserved. I know we need to listen to our dermatologists, but when mine told me to stop using sunscreen (and moisturizer) and that I shouldnt have been using it due to my acne, I was questioning my whole existence because that goes against everything I was taught by every dermatologist and aesthetician of the internet, especially now that Im on Accutane, I thought sunscreen would be the most essential. after months of just cutting it all out my face is still oily, but not as bad as it was before. Perhaps I'm looking for advice or just other people who have had a similar experience and what they think of it. However, if your skin is on the dryer side, they can work against you. Why do dermatologists say not . only con is that my face is covered in dead skin but ah well, that's what i get for being lazy since all i do is rinse. Some people might do a lot better without moisturiser or only a very light fluid. It makes sense when I remember the reverse wisdom that was commonly cited in my teen years: When you overdry your skin with too many zit-zappers, your skin responds by producing more oil to compensate. Second, when you do use your moisturizer make sure to use the smallest amount possible. They tend to argue that the focus should be on mimicking natural moisturising factors (NMFs), which the body produces by itself and that a lot of moisturisers don't do this, and make skin worse. Despite me expressing that I have dry and sensitive skin, he told me not to use moisturizer because they are occlusive and cause my acne to be worse, (Every now and then I also use La Roche Posay Cicablast Balm B5), He told me not to use any moisturizer, use Cerave foaming cleanser, and to not let your skin get too dry. At my practice in New York, I recommend using a good skin cleanser and then a lightweight moisturizer after our clients have IPL treatments. Id never considered that idea until I started working for a doctor who carried the ZO skincare line. Dr. Zein Obagi, a Beverly Hills-based dermatologist and founder of ZO Skin Health, says that using moisturizer could actually be detrimental to skin. Ive been advised that acne prone or oily skin should only be treated with Gel moisturizer, never cream and definitely Not before any retinoids because the moisturizer creates a barrier the retinoids cant get through. I had a lot of questions, particularly because anybody who has gotten upset over acne has probably gone through their obsessive phase where you read everything and anything acne related. I said you were right, but told you why I don't apply sun screen. It certainly does not clog pores. She told Insider she wants a routine that will help reverse skin damage caused by not . I haven't been to a derm since high school. i was told to use acne oc moisturizer and ipca acne uv sunscreen. Be kind and respectful, bullying will not be tolerated. The American Acne Association does not provide medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Dry face + Less acne (but still acne) vs Smooth, elastic face + more acne - I dunno what's worse haha.. recently was told that it was hormonal acne but after getting the opinion of several other dermatologists . Hes a good doctor and Im sure its ok for my case specifically. I have an alcohol free, hypoallergenic, non-comedogenic and oil-free neutrogena white moisturiser, that cost me quite a lot of money some time back, so I might start using that on the particularly dry areas, and hopefully try change my routine to avoid having to use it at all.
Mobile County Metro Jail Docket Room,
Political Diversity Impact On Work And Life In Australia,
Actors Named John That Have Died,
Mission Viejo Missing Girl,
Kemper Health Provider Portal,
Articles M